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Monday, June 29, 2009
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Steven and Brian,
Craig S was warming up in the Bull Pen in Balt.....stop making excuses for this front office. They need to be held accountable not enabled. This was just another example of this team has no idea what the right hand is doing or the left hand.
Oh Steven, now Milledge is a truly terrible outfielder and his bat is going to have to drastically improve to even be a passable MLB outfielder. You just told me he was improving as a CF. Do you have no conscience?
I will be waiting a very long time for you to admit that Olsen is not one of the worst pitchers in baseball aren’t I? You can not even admit his fastball was good and his control and K rate great....it must be tough being right all the time.
Re: Olsen's velocity--I was wrong there. I really clicked onto one inning where he happened to be mostly at 88-89, but after the podcast I clicked through more innings and indeed it appears his velocity was up. This is a good thing, and it makes him a different pitcher from the last 18 months.
Re: Milledge, you're putting words in my mouth. I've said he was improving at the bat, but show me where I've said he's improved in CF. He's terrible there. I've said for over a year that if he can't figure out CF that he's not an asset because he doesn't have the bat for a corner. The thing I disagree with is those who say that his problem is laziness and un-coachability. I don't see that.
"I didn't say he's not coachable. In fact I said he clearly is getting better".Says Steven 24 hours agao
We were talking about his defense here right.....If you want to keep back peddling on this fine but do not try to tell me you think his hitting prospects were what were improving.....he was were you would expect him to be at the end of last year with the bat.
Steven in Jan Says about Milledge's defense in CF....The question is can he get better and how much? I think there's basically no doubt he'll get better. For the umpteenth time, you cannot underestimate how hard it is to play every day for the first time while learning a new position at age 23 at the major league level. You can see the natural athleticism is there. I think he has a very good chance to become an average defensive centerfielder by 2010, by which time if his bat continues to develop at its current pace he'll be a near-all star-level performer.
If Milledge went out there next year and regressed either in the field or at the plate, I would consider moving him out of center or even demoting him to a fourth outfielder. But based on what we've seen, the trendline is there, and the progress is coming. I say pat the kid on the back and send him right back out to centerfield. He is, after all, one of only 4-5 guys on the whole major league roster who has a serious opportunity to contribute to a contender in DC.
I have to disagree with both of you that I would take Jordan Schafer for Dunn in a heartbeat. You get a future piece for, a two year rental.
But I am stupidly biased in the direction of defense and youth.
Good job, jayb. You got me.
Sounds like I was drinking the happy juice that day.
Thanks for playing, and see you again tomorrow.
Yes you will....I love the Natmosphere in the ear....
Steven,
As you may recall the issue that differentiated our view on Milledge was that he "could learn" be an acceptable CFer. I always maintained that he had zero instincts for baseball and especially CF. You do not "learn" those and this is just one reason why Jimbo’s Toolsy Prospects are such a bust.
I agree with Ben. I would trade Dunn for Schafer in a second.
Dunn's defense is so bad that I think it greatly undermines a good part of the value he brings as a hitter with his run production and OB skills.
Don't get me wrong, he's the best outfielder we have, but he's not Ken Griffey, Jr.
Dunn for Schaefer is an interesting debate. I mostly dodged the question on the podcast, but I could be persuaded.
I'd be much more interested in making a deal with the Giants for Dunn. They have a plethora of talented young pitchers, and with Sabean at the helm, you could probably get a better haul than you could with the Braves. I'd be interested in a Dunn for Schafer deal, but he's raised a lot of questions over the past year. Will his power continue to develop? Can he develop a better eye at the plate? Is his defense as good as advertised? There's a lot of intangibles, but then again Dunn is vastly overrated. He was only worth 1.3 WAR last year, despite hitting 40HR (that's Nyjer Morgan territory), so even if Schafer never lived up to his potential, he'd likely be comparable to Dunn.
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